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greeneyes
sad.gif i have been searching websites to find my own self help and also for my husband and myself, we have been together for 17 years (married 13), new each other in college as friends and found each other several years later and fell in love. at the time he drank heavily, and i became a drinker with him (but kept it under control, what ever that means). needlesstosay, it became worse with him, we have had a good life and ofcourse quite a few bad times, he has never been abusive to me, i have always supported him through all his blunders, only in the last 4-5 years things have progressively gotten worse, (by the way he has been doing drugs and drinking since he was a young teenager), almost lost his job 2 or 3 different times, drove into our house through the bathroom, and quite a few other horrible thing and through all this and many other situations, i always stood by him. about a year and a half a go (with my persuasion) he went into rehab, withdrawn from physchiatric medications, and went to AA. he has been sober for this time, he just started the 12 step program and is now on #4, one month ago, he tells me (out of the blue) he doesnt feel the same way about me, but still cares, of course i was devastated, he has always been a quite person and i didnt want to interfere with his recovery. we would talk about it sometimes, but he seemed fine. we have been going on like a normal couple, we dont fight (every once in a while like any normal couple) but nothing hugh. so within 6 days he was gone, we have no children, but he left me with the 2 dogs that he loves, 3 cats and my elderly mother, who i take care of on a full time basis. he said it has nothing to do with my mother. what he does say, is that he feels nothing for anyone, not his parents, the dogs, my mother, himself or me (he feels like a monster inside). he is seeking help through a physco therapist right now (on his second visit) and like i said is in the middle of the 12 step program, i want to believe in my heart that he is very confused and still loves me deep down, however, of course it hurts so much. we talk on the phone, last week we went to a movie and dinner. some people would think i'm crazy, but i even gave him money to set him up in an apartment for 7 months. i think he needs this time to search himself. he seems to have no self asteem however, i have always told him how much potential he has and what a caring person he is. he says he feels nothing, doesnt want to be touched by anyone, i want to hang in there, but it is so hard on me and i miss him so much. im trying to keep the lines of communication open, and be strong when i do talk to him (he hates seeing me cry). which i do every day and am trying to work on. i pray a lot, he has never been a very religious person, however his sponsor has talked about spirituality as well as i have, i think (know) he is trying.......... this is it in a small nut shell, desparately seeking advice --- kp, p.s. we saw each other for a brief time, and since he has left he kissed me good bye and even said he loves me?????
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don
hello,
i suggest you check out alanon. a google search should put you at their
online front door. alanon is a fellowship like aa started by the wife of one
of the founders of AA. it sounds as if you are trying to head in a good
direction in looking for support for you. you will find loving and caring people
that have been through many of the same things as you and will understand
how you are feeling. you will be meeting your new best friends that you
never knew you had.

often there are changes to relationships when the drinking stops. really, it
is not that uncommon. you mentioned that he was drinking and drugging
when you met and has continued until now. he is probably just as confused
as you are, as to who he is. what you chose to do about the financial arrangements
of your relationship is up to you, but, do be prepared to hear differing
'suggestions' when you go to alanon. try to keep an open mind when you
hear what people will say to you as they have many times 'been there, done
that'. and they are only sharing their experience strength and hope, so that,
you too, can realize some peace and (chuckle) maybe a bit of serentity in
your life.

the program of recovery as suggested in the book 'alcoholics anonymous'
is based on spiritual principles. these principles are found in most religions,
but, AA and alanon do not endorse any particular religion. what we espouse
is a way of living that includes the help and guidance of a benevolent 'higher
power'. many of us receive this guidance by 'hearing' our HP speak to us
through the sharing of others in the fellowship.

i guess the main thing i can share with you is that you are not alone. and there
are people that understand what you are going through and will stand with
you as you wend your way up this new path. your husband is on 'his' path
and you are on yours. that they may recross and possibly merge again is a
possiblilitiy. but, i am fairly comfortable in saying to you that they won't merge
smoothly, if at all, until you too do as you have started, and seek out the help
and support that you will need.

there are answers, and there is help, and there is peace. i wish you well in your
efforts. if you continue to be honest and apply yourself diligently towards
understanding, you will find what you are seeking.

yours in fellowship,
don

QUOTE(greeneyes @ Jul 11 2005, 05:46 AM)
sad.gif i have been searching websites to find my own self help and also for my husband and myself, we have been together for 17 years (married 13), new each other in college as friends and found each other several years later and fell in love. at the time he drank heavily, and i became a drinker with him (but kept it under control, what ever that means). needlesstosay, it became worse with him, we have had a good life and ofcourse quite a few bad times, he has never been abusive to me, i have always supported him through all his blunders, only in the last 4-5 years things have progressively gotten worse, (by the way he has been doing drugs and drinking since he was a young teenager), almost lost his job 2 or 3 different times, drove into our house through the bathroom, and quite a few other horrible thing and through all this and many other situations, i always stood by him. about a year and a half a go (with my persuasion) he went into rehab, withdrawn from physchiatric medications, and went to AA. he has been sober for this time, he just started the 12 step program and is now on #4, one month ago, he tells me (out of the blue) he doesnt feel the same way about me, but still cares, of course i was devastated, he has always been a quite person and i didnt want to interfere with his recovery. we would talk about it sometimes, but he seemed fine. we have been going on like a normal couple, we dont fight (every once in a while like any normal couple) but nothing hugh. so within 6 days he was gone, we have no children, but he left me with the 2 dogs that he loves, 3 cats and my elderly mother, who i take care of on a full time basis. he said it has nothing to do with my mother. what he does say, is that he feels nothing for anyone, not his parents, the dogs, my mother, himself or me (he feels like a monster inside). he is seeking help through a physco therapist right now (on his second visit) and like i said is in the middle of the 12 step program, i want to believe in my heart that he is very confused and still loves me deep down, however, of course it hurts so much. we talk on the phone, last week we went to a movie and dinner. some people would think i'm crazy, but i even gave him money to set him up in an apartment for 7 months. i think he needs this time to search himself. he seems to have no self asteem however, i have always told him how much potential he has and what a caring person he is. he says he feels nothing, doesnt want to be touched by anyone, i want to hang in there, but it is so hard on me and i miss him so much. im trying to keep the lines of communication open, and be strong when i do talk to him (he hates seeing me cry). which i do every day and am trying to work on. i pray a lot, he has never been a very religious person, however his sponsor has talked about spirituality as well as i have, i think (know) he is trying.......... this is it in a small nut shell, desparately seeking advice --- kp, p.s. we saw each other for a brief time, and since he has left he kissed me good bye and even said he loves me?????

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greeneyes
don, thank you SO MUCH for your feedback, i truely have confidence our relationship will weather the storm, however, know that it will take a lot of work on both our parts, we have been through alot and i believe that god has not brought us this far for it to end.... again thank you, your reply really helped...... greeneyes

QUOTE(don @ Jul 11 2005, 09:21 AM)
hello,
i suggest you check out alanon. a google search should put you at their
online front door. alanon is a fellowship like aa started by the wife of one
of the founders of AA. it sounds as if you are trying to head in a good
direction in looking for support for you. you will find loving and caring people
that have been through many of the same things as you and will understand
how you are feeling. you will be meeting your new best friends that you
never knew you had.

often there are changes to relationships when the drinking stops. really, it
is not that uncommon. you mentioned that he was drinking and drugging
when you met and has continued until now. he is probably just as confused
as you are, as to who he is. what you chose to do about the financial arrangements
of your relationship is up to you, but, do be prepared to hear differing
'suggestions' when you go to alanon. try to keep an open mind when you
hear what people will say to you as they have many times 'been there, done
that'. and they are only sharing their experience strength and hope, so that,
you too, can realize some peace and (chuckle) maybe a bit of serentity in
your life.

the program of recovery as suggested in the book 'alcoholics anonymous'
is based on spiritual principles. these principles are found in most religions,
but, AA and alanon do not endorse any particular religion. what we espouse
is a way of living that includes the help and guidance of a benevolent 'higher
power'. many of us receive this guidance by 'hearing' our HP speak to us
through the sharing of others in the fellowship.

i guess the main thing i can share with you is that you are not alone. and there
are people that understand what you are going through and will stand with
you as you wend your way up this new path. your husband is on 'his' path
and you are on yours. that they may recross and possibly merge again is a
possiblilitiy. but, i am fairly comfortable in saying to you that they won't merge
smoothly, if at all, until you too do as you have started, and seek out the help
and support that you will need.

there are answers, and there is help, and there is peace. i wish you well in your
efforts. if you continue to be honest and apply yourself diligently towards
understanding, you will find what you are seeking.

yours in fellowship,
don

QUOTE(greeneyes @ Jul 11 2005, 05:46 AM)

sad.gif i have been searching websites to find my own self help and also for my husband and myself, we have been together for 17 years (married 13), new each other in college as friends and found each other several years later and fell in love. at the time he drank heavily, and i became a drinker with him (but kept it under control, what ever that means). needlesstosay, it became worse with him, we have had a good life and ofcourse quite a few bad times, he has never been abusive to me, i have always supported him through all his blunders, only in the last 4-5 years things have progressively gotten worse, (by the way he has been doing drugs and drinking since he was a young teenager), almost lost his job 2 or 3 different times, drove into our house through the bathroom, and quite a few other horrible thing and through all this and many other situations, i always stood by him. about a year and a half a go (with my persuasion) he went into rehab, withdrawn from physchiatric medications, and went to AA. he has been sober for this time, he just started the 12 step program and is now on #4, one month ago, he tells me (out of the blue) he doesnt feel the same way about me, but still cares, of course i was devastated, he has always been a quite person and i didnt want to interfere with his recovery. we would talk about it sometimes, but he seemed fine. we have been going on like a normal couple, we dont fight (every once in a while like any normal couple) but nothing hugh. so within 6 days he was gone, we have no children, but he left me with the 2 dogs that he loves, 3 cats and my elderly mother, who i take care of on a full time basis. he said it has nothing to do with my mother. what he does say, is that he feels nothing for anyone, not his parents, the dogs, my mother, himself or me (he feels like a monster inside). he is seeking help through a physco therapist right now (on his second visit) and like i said is in the middle of the 12 step program, i want to believe in my heart that he is very confused and still loves me deep down, however, of course it hurts so much. we talk on the phone, last week we went to a movie and dinner. some people would think i'm crazy, but i even gave him money to set him up in an apartment for 7 months. i think he needs this time to search himself. he seems to have no self asteem however, i have always told him how much potential he has and what a caring person he is. he says he feels nothing, doesnt want to be touched by anyone, i want to hang in there, but it is so hard on me and i miss him so much. im trying to keep the lines of communication open, and be strong when i do talk to him (he hates seeing me cry). which i do every day and am trying to work on. i pray a lot, he has never been a very religious person, however his sponsor has talked about spirituality as well as i have, i think (know) he is trying.......... this is it in a small nut shell, desparately seeking advice --- kp, p.s. we saw each other for a brief time, and since he has left he kissed me good bye and even said he loves me?????

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happywanderer
Green Eyes,

Hi, I am new to this site and have just starting weathering the same storm you have. I have a boyfriend of 10 years who just got up and left because he states he doesnt feel the same for me anymore. He drinks every day and has been disconnecting from me for sometime now but like you, I was very supportive and gave him no reason not to keep out love alive. When we first met-same thing, I drank and still do but not as he where all I see him drink every day is coffeee in the morning and beer the rest of the day. I just recently have accepted the fact that this is probably why the disconnection. Any advice for a newcomer and how is AlAnon helping you as thats where a family member suggested I go?

Thanks!
Happy Wanderer(although not very happy today)
greeneyes
QUOTE(happywanderer @ Oct 16 2005, 03:23 PM)
Green Eyes,

Hi, I am new to this site and have just starting weathering the same storm you have.  I have a boyfriend of 10 years who just got up and left because he states he doesnt feel the same for me anymore.  He drinks every day and has been disconnecting from me for sometime now but like you, I was very supportive and gave him no reason not to keep out love alive.  When we first met-same thing, I drank and still do but not as he where all I see him drink every day is coffeee in the morning and beer the rest of the day.  I just recently have accepted the fact that this is probably why the disconnection.  Any advice for a newcomer and how is AlAnon helping you as thats where a family member suggested I go?

Thanks!
Happy Wanderer(although not very happy today)
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greeneyes
QUOTE(greeneyes @ Oct 18 2005, 04:46 PM)
QUOTE(happywanderer @ Oct 16 2005, 03:23 PM)
Green Eyes,

Hi, I am new to this site and have just starting weathering the same storm you have.  I have a boyfriend of 10 years who just got up and left because he states he doesnt feel the same for me anymore.  He drinks every day and has been disconnecting from me for sometime now but like you, I was very supportive and gave him no reason not to keep out love alive.  When we first met-same thing, I drank and still do but not as he where all I see him drink every day is coffeee in the morning and beer the rest of the day.  I just recently have accepted the fact that this is probably why the disconnection.  Any advice for a newcomer and how is AlAnon helping you as thats where a family member suggested I go?

Thanks!
Happy Wanderer(although not very happy today)
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hi happy wanderer
its been a while since ive been to this site, i didnt like the reply that someone gave me so i just let it slip. since june 2005, we have been back and forth, it has been 3-4 months since the breakfast and i like yourself am still heart broken, i pray more than i ever have, and that seems to help, i know in aa they believe that an alcoholic needs to have a higher power to get through this terrible disease. i just have to say is to follow your heart, which i have been doing. my husband is on his 2nd to 3rd year of not drinking, he is going to aa and working on the 12 steps, he is also seeing a physcologist, and feels like he is not getting any better. still cant seem to have feelings for those he use to love, etc... blah blah blah. as of last week i think i finally realize i should stop pushing the issue, and think before i talk. i got so upset with this past weekend that the next day i c alled him and left a message on his cell saying something to the effect "if you want to file for divorce go a head". of course i didnt mean it. it has only been 3-4 months that he split. and im not going to give up, we have invested to much time with each other. i also feel since we have no children, both not interested in dating, why push the issue, i want to stay married as long as i can, until i am ready for a new direction. also after him receiving my phone call, he called me and said that what i said may be a good idea, since he felt he was misleading me. i called back and said that i wont do that...... i have tried so many different things. see him, dont seem him. this time i think we really do need a separation. he needs to get over his feeling issues, etc. i myself should be going to a physcologist, however, im not up to that either and i havent gone to alanon, due to being affraid what they will say. its like i said try everything, get on the internet and research that may put more things into perspective. i wish you all the luck, hang in there, as they say "who is they", this too will pass. i know the hurt will feel like it wont go away, but it does, i though also i couldnt bare the pain and was sick, i lost 30 lbs, thru it all (what a way to loose weight") and still am. email me any time....... greeneyes
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